GGPoker Ambassador Daniel Negreanu made his personal take on VPN clear in a recent podcast.
In the last episode of Orbit, a round table hosted by Cardplayer Lifestyle’s Robbie strazynski, Negreanu said he “didn’t care” about the location of the players, as long as they were who they claimed to be.
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Negreanu was joined on Orbit by the founder of Run It Once Poker Phil galfond, partypoker partner Rob yong and the former Managing Director of the Microgaming Poker Network (MPN) Alex scott.
During the episode, the panel discussed the role of regulation in poker and whether regulation is a barrier to the functioning of online poker.
Negreanu said the obvious goal of online poker is for everyone to play against each other, but made some interesting comments about the VPN.
What is a VPN?
A virtual private network is a tool that allows you to hide your Internet Protocol (IP) address, thus providing you with online privacy and anonymity.
Many people use it to watch shows on Netflix that they cannot see in their country, but more importantly, for this conversation, poker players can use it to conceal their location.
Poker sites have repeatedly stated that using a VPN is against their terms of service, with 2018 Online Poker World Championship (WCOOP) champion “wann2play” was stripped of its title and $ 1.35 million in prize money due to “multi-account / ghosting” and use of a VPN.
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This is not the first time that Negreanu has spoken out on the ethics of using a VPN to play poker from a country where it is not allowed.
On this occasion, he referred to his time as a PokerStars ambassador in his views on this topic, saying he found it difficult to understand why PokerStars was spending so much money and resources trying to catch people who “vpn”, or who play from countries where they are not supposed to.
” I said that [before]”Negreanu continued.” Personally, I don’t care where you play as long as it’s you. That does not bother me.”
“Personally, I don’t care where you play as long as it’s you”
Negreanu hypothesized that Senegal was banning Apple products, and whether or not it would be up to Apple to control whether people used an iPhone or an iPad in that country.
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“I don’t think it makes a lot of sense for companies to monitor in these cases where the rule is stupid in the first place. It doesn’t make sense for us to spend resources to enforce this. […] If this is a problem in your country, then you are in control. “
The Poker Hall of Fame then made it clear that it is the policy of most poker companies that you are not allowed to do “any of the above”, but reiterated their views on this.
“Do I think it makes sense personally to spend a lot of resources trying to catch these people? I don’t think so. I don’t have a problem with that.”
What are sites saying about VPNs?
Here is what the terms and conditions of the three major poker sites – GGPoker, partypoker and PokerStars – have to say about the use of a VPN:
GGPoker is the only one to explicitly mention VPNs in their T & Cs. Under section 15 of GGPoker’s Safety & Ecology Agreement he clearly says:
“GGPoker strictly prohibits users located in prohibited jurisdictions from using VPN / PROXY, remote desktops, or any other method to obscure their true location.
If we determine that users are accessing GGPoker from prohibited countries, we may restrict their use of the VPN / Proxy, or suspend the account and request proof of attendance (“POP”).
There is no explicit mention of the term “VPN” in the partypoker Terms and conditions. However, in article 2, it says:
“You may only use the Facilities if You are 18 years of age or older (or other higher minimum legal age in Your jurisdiction) and it is legal for You to do so in accordance with the laws that apply in Your jurisdiction.”
In section 6 of the same document it says:
“We prohibit the use of any unfair practices when using the Facilities.”
There is no explicit mention of the term “VPN” in PokerStars. End User License Agreement. However, in article 5, it says:
“The Stars Group (TSG) prohibits located persons (including temporary visitors) or residents of certain jurisdictions (including jurisdictions where persons are required to play in accordance with the regulations of that jurisdiction, using the game client under appropriately designated license) to make deposits into their Stars Accounts or participate in Real Money Games.
“Any attempt to circumvent the gambling restrictions by any person located in a prohibited jurisdiction constitutes a violation of this Agreement. An attempted circumvention includes, without limitation, manipulation of information used by TSG to identify your location and provide TSG with false or misleading information regarding your location or place of residence. Any such attempt will authorize us to take such action as we deem appropriate, including, without limitation, seizing funds from your Stars Account. “